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    Level up your Cleaning Skills - Colored Manhua Redrawing Guide by Sharogy ~!

    Well, i'm not sure where to start, but you need to have some basic understanding how to clean stuff, like know what the tools does and how they work..

    So let me begin with showing you guys what to expect ??

    Colored: http://makeagif.com/D1nKGv
    B/W: http://makeagif.com/fWuSng


    I will simply post different scenarios, and talk about how to go about redrawing them.

    Note: I will keep updating with new redraws every time i do them, so today i recorded the first piece of the puzzle

    #1 HOW TO DO HAIRS??

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    How to:

    So this is how i do them, by no means the best or fastest way, but it works.

    ZOOM IN, i use 500%.

    I start with removing the text by painting the nearest background color on top of them using a brush. So in this case it is mostly White, light gray, or blue, it might look really odd at first when you do this, but once it is fully redrawn, the background color will mesh really well if you done it right. The ALT + Right click comes in handy here, as it picks up the color of your pointing click with the brush.

    Next i connect the lines, with brush again, this step is fairly simple, all you need is practise and obtain a steady hand, if you have a tablet that is even better, although it works just fine with a mouse. By all means you dont have to draw the smoothest line in the world, once zoomed out, even the most average line will look good enough unless you royally messed it up.

    When you are lost and dont know which lines to connect, do the ones YOU KNOW first, and by comparing the raw, occasionally improvising, it shouldn't be too hard to connect all of them.

    Lastly, some simple touch up, i do it by enable and disable the drawing layer real fast, so i can see the difference between the raw and the drawing, if you notice any obvious difference, means you should try to cover it up abit more, this usually involve abit smoothing on the background color or shave off extra edges in your lines.

    HEre is a video of me doing the above sample pages,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKXJwYR3JAs


    Feel free to test this out yourself.
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    Chapter 2, HOw to Clone stamp out stuff??

    well, let's start off by saying, that NOT EVERYTHING can be clone stamped, but for those you can, you SHOULD.

    Now what kind of stuff you can typically stamp EVERYTHING? well, stuff like FLAME or straight LINES, both are made for stamping.

    So here is a sample page:

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    How to:

    sometimes i bother removing the text first, sometimes i don't, depend on the location and how confident i'm in just stamping it.

    It is hard to put into words of what i'm about to do here, so i will try my best.

    Stuff like this, it doesnt need to look anything like the original as long as it doesnt look OUT OF PLACE, so i just search for something in the picture that kind of resembles of what i need, and just clone it, usualy i pick up the edges first, if stuff left over in the center i can always patch it up later.

    same with straight lines really, however straight lines often tend to fade out in the background with some kind of gradiant, we will cover those in another chapter, for the purpose of this one, i just cloned them and used the "dodge tool" to lightly burn out some color in them so they fade a lil bit. but this is not the best way to do them if you have many lines.

    So in the end, i think it is best to see them in action, here is a video of me doing this particular page.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHTcn...ature=youtu.be


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    Chapter 3, when to use the Spot healing tool?

    This tool if used well can greatly save your redrawing time, but when used poorly it leaves a terrible mess that just makes the matter even worse. so below i will introduce a couple scenarios it will work, and how to use it.

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    Basicly for it to work, the element you apply the healing tool on must be ISOLATED by backgrounds without clear detailed pattern.

    So for example CLOUDS, or some monotone color shifting backgrounds, the healing tool will work great on them.

    How to?

    Simply select all the text and voila. easy as that, what it does is simply reconstruct the selection area with the surrounding textures, so if you dont select all of the text and only half, then the remaining text will also be used to reconstruct the selection area, resulting in fugly repair jobs.

    Here is a short video on how it works.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyteb...ature=youtu.be


    PS: For the normal healing tool, you want to color the selection with a color akin to the background, for instance blue with a blue sky. as they take the color of the selection into account
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    Chapter 4, fixing background with gradiant + how to draw lines with line tools + bonus trick.

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    SO here is a small SFX we will be getting rid of, but i will demonstrate abit on how to make the background color fade from point to point as well, so note that "NORMALLY I WONT BE DOING IT LIKE THIS"

    How To:

    - Background fixing with gradiant -

    Brushing stripes of colors from the point of focus, in this case, the color is fading from bottom towards top, so we will brush horizontally, and it should be evident that the colors are changing from point to point, As a result we end up with multiple stripes of colors that are slightly disconnected.

    NExt we are introducing a tool called, "Mixed Brush", this particular tool mix the different color and smoothing it out, play around with the settings abit,the more monotone the background is, the more wetness you can apply, if the background is very colorful, apply less mix and wetness for better results. the idea is to brush over the area where colors deviates from each other,and if all goes well, it will mix it up just nicely.

    Finally you want to brush over the edges a little bit and between the connecting point to make it look better.

    - Drawing Lines -

    For straight lines, there is nothing that beats the line tool, generally in action series there are many speed lines, and you can draw just about any of those with a simple click and drag, again always sample the correct line color with the alt right click on the base layer.

    However due to overlapping, the place where the lines overlap, the color tend to be darker or brighter than normal, simply clonestamp the connecting point to repair them.

    - BONUS TRICK -

    This is a particular useful technique if you have to draw the ending point of a line with gradiant, simply by merging a group of lines together in to a single layer and add a LAYER MASK, you can then apply gradiant tool to only the lines, with different focal point you can make it fade from all different directions. very useful if that is what you are trying to fix, and opacity option here determines the strength of fading.

    And ofcourse, a video for demonstration purpose:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr3wh...ature=youtu.be
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    Chapter 5, How to draw glowing effects and detailed art on top of less detailed backgrounds. ~~!

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    Well, at first look stuff like this seems really tough, but it is doable.

    How To:

    Well the idea is to focus on the lightning, as that is the most important thing to redraw, the background can be whatever, as fuzzy as you want them to be, so i stamped most of them, and alot of healing tool abuse, once you fixed up the background, you can then spend your time work on the lightning beams, as long as those looks good you are done.

    To draw this lightning, you start with drawing the frame, the outliner with black or dark brown w/e color is used, then color the inside with yellow, and center with white.
    Finally touching up with mixed brush to smoothing the yellow->white area.

    However at closer inspection, the lightning beam also have a little bit of GLOW effect to them, this is the new thing we havent talked aboutbefore, to draw GLOWing effect, the easist is to grab a brush with low OPACITY, and with the right color you simply draw it over the edge lightly, and it will look like a glow effect.

    Due to the time needed to draw this, i only recorded 1 of the characters, but they are all similar in nature, so if you can do one, you can do them all. See video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY3Ey...ature=youtu.be
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    Chapter 6, Selective Cloning.

    In pretty much 90% of the redrawing case, you have to use many different tools, to speed up your process however, it is very important to know what you can clone, and from where, without sacrifising the quality of the redraw.

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    NOTE: This time i didnt start from scratch, i was basicly repairing a redraw from someone else, hopefully you will be able to see the difference in before and after the fix.

    How To: It's pretty hard to put into the words, however there are couple key points when redrawing images with certain framework. In this case, the Darker colored section of the picture must be preserved, as they are most noticible, that means what ever you do, you have to preserve the two long neck lines and slightly darker mixed lines around it, once you have that under control, the rest of the colors can go either way, cuz they will be less noticeble. this same priinciple works pretty much for ALL redraws, focus on the framework <---.

    So i started by reconstructing the edges of the hair a little bit to make my life easier, then i started with the neck line on the left, notice how there is section of the lines without text i could use to clone the entire line. when cloning it is also important to clone silightly from a different focus point every time, and repeat in different places, so even though the entire neck line is made out of the same section of pixels, together it doesnt look out of place at all.

    Next i started with the neckline to the right, this one i had much less material to work with, therefor i had to improvise abit, by drawing the center line, however the lines around it, i could just use the ones from the first neckline ~! how handy!, with that in mine i quickly cloned those, once the framework is finished, rest is just touching up, by meshing the are of background color using mixed brush, i have now completed this redraw.

    see following video for demonstration:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHw6l...ature=youtu.be
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    Chapter 7, How to fix B/W Double Spread.

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    If you clean B/W greyscale, you will come across many of such pages, some group simply leaves them as 2 pages, but having it both together, and redrawn is simply that much better, however obviously that means you have to improvise the missing chunk in the middle.

    How To:

    The basic idea is simply start with the more OBVIOUS objects, that you know you can clone quickly. and deal with the rest later, so in this case i fixed the exlaimation mark first, and the bottom bit, and then the white cloudy misty area on top, as those i either know what they look like or they are so obscured it doesnt matter.

    Next up the outfit on the character, it might seem abit lost at first how it would look like, frankly i have no clue EITHER, so i just have to go with the FLOW, by cloning visible lines is usually the best way to go about such problem, however, it is a good idea to clone couple different lines at the same time, bit by bit on each of them, you will see where they intersect, and repair accordingly.

    once you have most of the lines cloned, the bigger picture starts to emerge, for this particular page i only had to manually draw 1 line in the outfit area, as i start to see the pattern and realize im missing a seperating line there, for the rest i was able to clone them all.

    Here is the video:
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